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Tuesday, September 23, 2008

Here's an interesting response to my poll below.


"McCain/Palin. I understand the debate of Faith vs. Science, and because of that you see my choice. I truly believe that god does not give you what you can not handle. Sin is in this world to keep us looking to our faith. Without it we become numb. Science is the devils work as it is said he will do anything to lead you astray. I do not preach religion in fact this is first time that I have ever responded to something about this subject, but I felt compelled to show the other side of things. It is easy to fall back on science because we can not touch faith or see it. It is something we are all tested with. In fact, I tend to belive you were a christian at one time and have strayed for some reason. But that is irrelevant. You have your reasons and I don't question them. But it is unfair to point or mock a faith simply because you do not believe. There will always be differences and there will always be a winner and a loser. Regardless of the outcome, nothing will change my faith as I am sure nothing will change your belief in Science. BOTH candidates will be whom they are regardless. Fact is, the world will always be split and neither you or I can change that."

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First thanks for responding to the poll.

Second, you are using science to write on my blog so I wonder how you can call science the devil's work? Wouldn't that mean you are hanging out with the devil every time you use your computer? Look around yourself and you will see science in numerous forms everywhere you go in your home. Otherwise you'd be digging a hole outside and pooping in it. Science created your toilet and pretty much everything else in your house. Even the most ardent religious extremists would agree that god didn't make the toilet when he was busy creating the world.

I have faith - my faith tells me that there is no devil or angel or tooth fairy or santa claus or boogie man or monster under my bed. And, I do change my opinions because I always question authority and think for myself. I have to say you sound almost fatalistic in your beliefs, and sad too. I hope that isn't the case.

Anyhow, I am still confused as to why you would vote for McCain and use the above reasons for your vote as if McCain has nothing to do with science and would not use science as president.

Also, just to clarify. I am the least numb person you'd ever meet and have no religious faith at all. Those two things don't connect.

And one more question: do you believe dinosaurs and man were on the earth at the same time? Thanks again for responding. Although we don't think alike, I'd like to think we both think.

5 Comments:

Blogger Thomas Forsyth said...

I think that guy was some hit and run poster, and a fanatic. I don't get the whole religion vs science thing.

First you have the Creation story which has been translated countless times and Jewish scholars have debated the meanings back and forth and undoubtedly everything in science has undoubtedly been discussed in relation to Torah, and I bet there is some very interesting findings.

The anti-intellectualism coming about now is some weird after-birth of some pseudo intellectual jackasses probably being mean to religious types and sparking a reaction against some strawman scientist, as scientific folks then go after some strawman religious types.

I do think without a moral foundation, science can be abused and has been. Is the moral foundation religious? It can be, but primarily it is objective, which does not require religious beliefs, and some religions are so blah that they lack absolutes.

Besides, the current debate is bunk. You'd be amazed how many pioneers in science were priests and monks in Europe, and in the Middle east Jewish and Islamic religious scholars also did plenty of scientific exploration, as the great physician and philosopher Maimominides was also a Rabbi (and the inspiration for Thomas Aquinas), though Aristotle himself was not religious, but I imagine he recognized concepts like objective truth and Natural Law.

11:48 AM  
Blogger mary bishop said...

Great comment Thomas, I think good science should always be objective and not subjective, certainly not based on or pissed on by any one religion as we know there are numerous religions...tons of them including my fave Scientology (tongue in cheek of course).

12:22 PM  
Blogger The Egel Nest said...

Blogging is science??

omg...

I am throwing this devil machine out the window immediately! :)

Bradley
The Egel Nest

9:10 PM  
Blogger Thomas Forsyth said...

Scientology is a fun target. Of course, I am surprised the Amish get a pass. Backwards, cult-like, inbred, and I can only imagine how women are regarded or how father's treat their daughters behind closed doors. They are the quintessential Luddite faith.

11:05 PM  
Blogger mary bishop said...

Hi Bradley...sorry but you are doing the devil's work. Even when you change Sammy's diaper there's some science in there...besides other stuff hahahha.

Thomas -- examine any "faith" and there's a ton of oddball "beliefs" but I do have to say scientology takes the cake in my mind....

8:01 AM  

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