"For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it."
Ivan Panin (Russian mathematician1855-1942)
Gothamimage.blogspot.com had an interesting post this morning on female beauty.
Laurenbove.blogspot.com also had a recent post on her glutes, which she felt were blooming without benefit of fertilizer.
They got me thinking about female beauty and what is it? Who’s got it? How to get it? And, is it me, or do most women suffer from body dysmorphic disorder?
When did arms that look like they belong on a wiry Frenchman become the in thing? When did breasts have to sit up in perfectly round, non-moving orbs upon a visibly ribbed, rib cage? When did an arse have to be the size it’s not --to be the *right* size?
Okay enough questions. Tell me what you think and I’ll tell you my thoughts.
I have the benefit of being married to a most honest man. We talk about everything and he always gives me the male perspective. For example: he told me that the sexiest thing about a woman is when *she* feels she’s sexy. A real turn on. This by the way has nothing to do with the size of her boobs or her butt, but her ego instead.
Leaving out attitude and personality though, and going straight for looks, who’s responsible for women’s attitudes toward their bodies? Lots of women will blame men…but I think it has nothing to do with men and all to do with women wanting to please themselves by altering their appearance until they resemble Barbie.
I think it’s all Barbie’s fault.
No, this isn’t an original opinion, I’m sure many people have blamed Barbie for today's super skinny, fake boobed, blubber lipped, liposucked women that you see, especially on island beaches.
Really, it’s not all Barbie, although she might have inspired a few little girls to grow up with a desire for proportions that defy physics and cannot be equaled by human females.
It’s got to be something in the woman herself. Something that makes a female feel unattractive, until she takes off stuff and adds on stuff till she sees something in the mirror that she likes.
Maybe Mrs. Potato Head is responsible?
Chin implants – wow...used to be that a “strong” chin was a man’s characteristic. Today it is one of the most often performed cosmetic surgeries. We all have to look like Arnold or we aren’t happy.
Bigger, better boobs - why? Fake boobs feel fake. As my husband says, why stop at the boobs, why not a whole fake woman? Why would two toilet-plunger rounds sticking out from a fleshless rib cage be better than the ones we grow naturally?
This whole lip explosion…my least favorite cosmetic surgery of all. The lips are plumped up into Pillsbury doughboy proportions, losing all edges until they appear to be tumors rather that lips.
They’re lumpy and non-symmetrical almost hemmorhoidal– and I’d be afraid, if I were a man, to kiss those things…perhaps like the Blob they’d just ingest you and you’d have to live the rest of your life hidden in those fleshy floppers, barely breathing due to the asphalt-like cover of Ruby Red lip gloss.
(Speaking of lip gloss, okay it’s not surgery but it ranks high as one of the wonders of the world. Why do lips have to look like they’ve been dipped in olive oil to be attractive? Must one’s lips glisten to that extreme? I’m surprised there aren’t more cutlery accidents, with slimy lips sliding off of forks and spoons and colliding with other tableware.)
Botox – let’s see, it’s a good thing to remove any hint of character or emotion from a face?
I’ve seen the botoxees. They look like zombies.
They can’t express anything but ennui. Ennui is a big one.. other than that – they are reduced to shouting out letters from the alphabet like LOL, LMAO because god knows we could never tell if they were laughing or even happy or sad or actually, even if they were choking to death, we wouldn’t know.
The botox face is devoid of expression, very similar to the visage of someone who’s had a lobotomy. Who knows, maybe the botoxers perform that operation at the same time they’re removing all signs of life from the face of the botoxee.
The most beautiful face in the world --to me --was my mother's, lined with smile wrinkles, tiny little female chin, short gray spiky hair, blue periwinkle eyes with short uncolored lashes…that truly was the most beautiful face I’ve ever seen.
But I know we're talking about female's view of their own bodies and faces, not the real faces and bodies we've loved in the past. And we're talking about what women think men like, not what most men really find attractive in a woman's body, like curves and roundness rather than cut and angular.
Still, no matter what you do, surgery or no surgery, the aging processs cannot be stopped. That's why intelligent women always seem to find mates whether they are beautiful or not.
In the words of Judge Judy: Beauty fades . . . but dumb is forever.
Ivan Panin (Russian mathematician1855-1942)
Gothamimage.blogspot.com had an interesting post this morning on female beauty.
Laurenbove.blogspot.com also had a recent post on her glutes, which she felt were blooming without benefit of fertilizer.
They got me thinking about female beauty and what is it? Who’s got it? How to get it? And, is it me, or do most women suffer from body dysmorphic disorder?
When did arms that look like they belong on a wiry Frenchman become the in thing? When did breasts have to sit up in perfectly round, non-moving orbs upon a visibly ribbed, rib cage? When did an arse have to be the size it’s not --to be the *right* size?
Okay enough questions. Tell me what you think and I’ll tell you my thoughts.
I have the benefit of being married to a most honest man. We talk about everything and he always gives me the male perspective. For example: he told me that the sexiest thing about a woman is when *she* feels she’s sexy. A real turn on. This by the way has nothing to do with the size of her boobs or her butt, but her ego instead.
Leaving out attitude and personality though, and going straight for looks, who’s responsible for women’s attitudes toward their bodies? Lots of women will blame men…but I think it has nothing to do with men and all to do with women wanting to please themselves by altering their appearance until they resemble Barbie.
I think it’s all Barbie’s fault.
No, this isn’t an original opinion, I’m sure many people have blamed Barbie for today's super skinny, fake boobed, blubber lipped, liposucked women that you see, especially on island beaches.
Really, it’s not all Barbie, although she might have inspired a few little girls to grow up with a desire for proportions that defy physics and cannot be equaled by human females.
It’s got to be something in the woman herself. Something that makes a female feel unattractive, until she takes off stuff and adds on stuff till she sees something in the mirror that she likes.
Maybe Mrs. Potato Head is responsible?
Chin implants – wow...used to be that a “strong” chin was a man’s characteristic. Today it is one of the most often performed cosmetic surgeries. We all have to look like Arnold or we aren’t happy.
Bigger, better boobs - why? Fake boobs feel fake. As my husband says, why stop at the boobs, why not a whole fake woman? Why would two toilet-plunger rounds sticking out from a fleshless rib cage be better than the ones we grow naturally?
This whole lip explosion…my least favorite cosmetic surgery of all. The lips are plumped up into Pillsbury doughboy proportions, losing all edges until they appear to be tumors rather that lips.
They’re lumpy and non-symmetrical almost hemmorhoidal– and I’d be afraid, if I were a man, to kiss those things…perhaps like the Blob they’d just ingest you and you’d have to live the rest of your life hidden in those fleshy floppers, barely breathing due to the asphalt-like cover of Ruby Red lip gloss.
(Speaking of lip gloss, okay it’s not surgery but it ranks high as one of the wonders of the world. Why do lips have to look like they’ve been dipped in olive oil to be attractive? Must one’s lips glisten to that extreme? I’m surprised there aren’t more cutlery accidents, with slimy lips sliding off of forks and spoons and colliding with other tableware.)
Botox – let’s see, it’s a good thing to remove any hint of character or emotion from a face?
I’ve seen the botoxees. They look like zombies.
They can’t express anything but ennui. Ennui is a big one.. other than that – they are reduced to shouting out letters from the alphabet like LOL, LMAO because god knows we could never tell if they were laughing or even happy or sad or actually, even if they were choking to death, we wouldn’t know.
The botox face is devoid of expression, very similar to the visage of someone who’s had a lobotomy. Who knows, maybe the botoxers perform that operation at the same time they’re removing all signs of life from the face of the botoxee.
The most beautiful face in the world --to me --was my mother's, lined with smile wrinkles, tiny little female chin, short gray spiky hair, blue periwinkle eyes with short uncolored lashes…that truly was the most beautiful face I’ve ever seen.
But I know we're talking about female's view of their own bodies and faces, not the real faces and bodies we've loved in the past. And we're talking about what women think men like, not what most men really find attractive in a woman's body, like curves and roundness rather than cut and angular.
Still, no matter what you do, surgery or no surgery, the aging processs cannot be stopped. That's why intelligent women always seem to find mates whether they are beautiful or not.
In the words of Judge Judy: Beauty fades . . . but dumb is forever.
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I like your reference to Barbie and Mrs Potato Head...and loved your talk about those new plumped up lips you see all over Hollywood - I hate them too.
That's such a hilarious post - but unfortunately, all too true. Why would a woman want to have an Arnie-type chin anyway?
I agree with you completely. Of course, standards of beauty change. There were times when a Rubenesque figure was more popular (another extreme, probably), simply because they looked more likely to survive childbirth by those times' standards.
I think women THINK that the more fragile they look, the more feminine they are. Obviously, it's nonsense, but if enough people think something it becomes Truth of the Moment. Most of the time people just follow the actresses, who live in the Ivory Tower, and have plenty of time and money on their hands to experiment.
Hi dani and Irina,
I was definitely on a roll this morning. I do think, (sure wish some men would speak up here), that men still want women with some flesh, as Irina says, they look likely to survive childbirth -- and I think that concept, although buried in a man's subconscious is still viable.
The adoration of actresses who starve themselves, adopt children rather than risk a stretch mark and/or surgically alter themselves on a routine basis must be why young women choose to diet until no hint of flesh is left.
The chin thing is still beyond my ken...
Just did Next Blog and read your piece. I am a man. I am a man who likes my women round. I am willing to stand up and be counted but not put my name on this because my girlfriend is like a stick.
If you've seen Renee Zellweger at the Oscars, you'll see a perfect example of what Irina was saying about feminine fragility. The poor thing looked like she was so weak so could barely move. It was ridiculous. I loved her in Brigit Jones' Diary and I think she was FAR more feminine and lovely with a few extra lbs.
Who'se to blame for female body image problems? I think the (male dominated) MEDIA is to blame for responding to the lowest common denominator in men for the almighty dollar.
Then I think it's the PLASTIC SURGEONS fault for performing needless and false looking operations to make all women look something like (yes) BARBIE. (for the almighty dollar)
I think it's also the fault of WOMEN who don't love themselves enough as they are and are vulnerable to the suggestion that their natural beauty is not enough.
Okay, I do blame MEN (at least those that a respond to the "Man Show" and "Howard Stern"), because of they have come to objectify women so much that there is only this one unnatural ideal fantasy woman that every woman aches to be able to be for their man but can never be...not w/o the plastic surgery anyway.
Look at how Jessica Rabbit was formed to please men. "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." if I must quote a cartoon.
Do women expect this much of men? Never. Surely you must have seen this often: An average balding, overweight, potbellied, middle aged man engaging a lovely young thing just over the statutory line. Does he think he has a chance? Probably.
I think women should be more like men. I want more beefcake shows on TV. I'd like to see the number of male nude shots in movies ramp up to equal the generous number of naked babe shots. Why does the penis have to be hidden away? Are the movie mogul men afraid their women will see what a real c*ck looks like? I guess they don't want that pressure. (neither do I)
Objectification could be fun if it was fair!
Overall I feel good about my body and how I look. I do get the pangs of doubt. But then I turn the TV off and my beautiful husband on. All is well. I check out other people my age and I compare very well. Everybody ages. I've had my turn at 20. The 20 yr olds out there will have their turn at 38.
So be it.
laurenbove: I agree on Renee - I found her so damned adorable in Bridget Jones Diary and at the Oscars, she did look frail and weak and like she was going to faint any minute...no where near as cute to my mind as when she had a few pounds.
So you're blaming the media, Irina blames Hollywood and I agree with both of you to an extent. But I most of all blame the women themselves who alter themselves on this quest to be something they aren't. If they're doing it for themselves, that's bad enough. If they are doing it for a man -- then that's horrid.
I don't think any woman would actually do it for herself. Women do it for men, but also for other women.
If a woman has all these surgical procedures for a man or a woman, then what is she going to do when a different man or different woman comes by with different ideas of what is beauty?
I'm on the fence about this -- I tend to believe the woman is doing it for herself -- feeding this hope that if only her boobs were bigger her life would be better. If her chin stuck out more then she'd find the man of her dreams.
Some correlation between a body part and a better life...
Hi Marybishop: I really enjoyed reading this blog on beauty and self-image. Just this morning, I was thinking about how women must go through monstrous efforts not only to become waif-thin, as is popular with celebrities, but to maintain that thinness. It's not healthy, and it's not natural, yet some of us women push ourselves to reach that unnatural standard, be it by unhealthy dieting, dangerous exercise, or surgical procedures.
Over the years, the ideal body image has flip-flopped. Remember the Marilyn Monroe decade when curvy, natural women were the bomb? Think Jayne Mansfield, Mae West, etc. Then we "progress" to the Twiggy anorexic stage where visible collarbones and ribs are a goal. Then we're into healthy athletic women like Jane Fonda and Olivia Newton John ("Let's Get Physical"). Then we're off and debating the starved look ala Kate Moss in the 90s.
Now, we seem to be at the stage when women are now relying more and more on plastic surgery, miracle creams, Botox, etc.
I applaud and appreciate Dove's attempt to bring the normal, natural American woman form to centerstage with its recent ads asking whether certain atypically attractive women are indeed attractive. But given the Britneys, Jessicas, Parises, and Lindsays in the world, it seems that the ridiculously unhealthy body standards remain.
I like the way your candid husband thinks -- a woman is sexy because she feels sexy. Amen!
Thanks for visiting Ling Woo -- I loved your blog and how much fun to just stumble upon it - I'll be back for sure to see what else you are talking about.
I adore those Dove ads. If we can see more real women in the media, maybe women won't feel the need to hate themselves so much.
Have you noticed that even men are getting into collagen in lips, botox injections and face lifts? Don't they realize that they've been able to exist for years under a standard of male beauty that didn't include these foolish enhancements??
They're not doing it for men. Men don't like fake women..half the men I know wish thier wives wouldn't even wear make up.
I'm down with Brett
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Hmmm my first glitch on blogspot. Comments were being doubled, tripled etc. Looks like all is in working order again.
Phew...!
Ling Woo - I love the links on your blog...had a big eye-opener this afternoon thanks to you!
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